May 12, 2005
Index to Notes
Comparison of Yang Style Long Hand Form 108 Movements to 85 Movements Versions
Notes and Comments
On Yang Style Taijiquan
By Michael P. Garofalo
Comparison of Yang Style Long Hand Form
108 Movements to 85 Movements Versions
Comparison of 108 and 85 Movement Lists
Yang Style T'ai Chi Ch'uan Long Form
108 Movement Yang Style Long Form
Tsung Hwa Jou, "Tao of Tai-Chi Chuan," 1980.
T. T. Liang, S. A. Olsen, "Imagination Becomes Reality," 1992.
Videotapes: Terence Dunn, Fong Ha, Lu Gui Rong, Wong Doc Fai,
Yu Cheng
Hsiang, Ye Xiao Long
85 Movement Yang Style Long Form
Yang Cheng-Fu 1931-1936 Published Versions of the Yang T'ai Chi Ch'uan Long Form
Fu Zhongwen "Mastering Yang Style Taijiquan", 1963, 1999.
Yang Zhenduo. "
Yang Style Taijiquan," 1985.
Zhang Fuxing, "Handbook of T'ai Chi Ch'uan Exercises", 1996
Why do some Taijiquan teachers want the number of movements in
the long form to add up to 108? Speculations:
The word "Upanisad" means "to come and sit down near the sage for
a lesson." There
are over 200 Upanisads, although the traditional number is 108.
- A
Source Book in Indian Philosophy, p.38
There are 108 beads in the Buddhist rosary (mala).
Yang Style Taijiquan Long Form
Comparison of 108 Movement to 85 Movement Listings
First Section
Posture Number 108 Moves |
Name of Move |
Posture Number 85 Moves |
1 | Preparation | 1 |
2 | Step Out, Opening Move | 2 |
3 | Ward-Off Left | 3 Part One, Peng Left |
4 | Grasping the Sparrow's Tail | 3 Part One, Peng Right 3 Part Two, Roll-back (Lu) 3 Part Three, Press (Ji) 3 Part Four, Push (An) |
5 | Single Whip | 4 |
6 | Raise Hands, Shoulder Stroke | 5 |
7 | White Crane Spreads Its Wings | 6 |
8 | Brush Left Knee and Push | 7 |
9 | Play the Pi Pa (Lute) | 8 |
10 | Brush Left Knee, Push and Twist Step | 9 Part One |
11 | Brush Right Kneen, Push and Twist Step | 9 Part Two |
12 | Brush Left Knee and Push | 9 Part Three |
13 | Play the Pi Pa (Lute) | 10 |
14 | Brush Left Knee and Push | 11 |
15 | Step Forward, Deflect, Parry and Punch | 12 |
16 | Apparent Withdraw then Push | 13 |
17 | Cross Hands | 14 |
Yang Style Taijiquan Long Form
Comparison of 108 Movement to 85 Movement Listings
Second Section, Part I
Posture Number 108 Moves |
Name of Move |
Posture Number 85 Moves |
18 | Embrace the Tiger, Return to the Mountain | 15, Part One, Brush Knee |
19 | Grasping the Sparrow's Tail | 15 Part Two, Roll Back 15 Part Three, Press 15 Part Three, Push |
20 | Fist Under Elbow | 16 |
21 | Step Back, Repulse Monkey - Right | 17 Part One |
22 | Step Back, Repulse Monkey - Left | 17 Part Two |
23 | Step Back, Repulse Monkey - Right | 17 Part Three |
24 | Diagonal Slant Flying | 18 |
25 | Raise Hands, Shoulder Stroke | 19 |
26 | White Crane Spreads Its Wings | 20 |
27 | Brush Left Knee and Push | 21 |
28 | Needle at Sea Bottom | 22 |
29 | Fan Through the Back | 23 |
30 | Turn, Chop with Fist | 24 |
31 | Step Forward, Parry and Punch | 25 |
32 | Ward-Off Right | 26 |
33 | Grasping the Sparrow's Tail | 26 |
34 | Single Whip | 27 |
35 | Wave Hands Like Clouds | 28 |
36 | Single Whip | 29 |
37 | High Pat on Horse | 30 |
Yang Style Taijiquan Long Form
Comparison of 108 Movement to 85 Movement Listings
Second Section, Part II
Posture Number 108 Moves |
Name of Move |
Posture Number 85 Moves |
38 | Kick with Right Toe | |
39 | Kick with Left Toe | |
40 | Turn, Kick with Left Sole | |
41 | Brush Left Knee, Right Hand Push, Twist Step | |
42 | Brush Right Knee, Left Hand Push | |
43 | Step Up, Punch Downward | |
44 | Turn, Chop with Fist | |
45 | Step Forward, Parry, Punch | |
46 | Kick with Right Sole | |
47 | Strike Tiger, Left Side | |
48 | Strike Tiger, Right Side | |
49 | Kick with Right Sole | |
50 | Strike Opponent's Ears with Fists | |
51 | Kick with Left Sole | |
52 | Pivot Around, Kick with Right Sole | |
53 | Step Forward, Deflect, Parry, Punch | |
54 | Apparent Withdraw, Push | |
55 | Cross Hands |
The "Authentic" Yang Style
Some argue that the popular version of the Yang style long hand form is a
watered down,
inauthentic, easy version of the "true" Yang style of the founder,
Yang Lu-Chan (1799-1872).
They argue that Yang Cheng-Fu created the popular version for many reasons, such
as:
he was physically unable perform the more demanding older Yang family forms, he
wanted
to attract more persons to practice the art who were less athletic and not as
interested in
martial applications, he kept the more demanding forms for inner-school
disciples, he
developed a form with longer, more open, and higher stances that matched his
physique
and his more easy going and friendly personality, and he was more creative and
experimental
that his ancestors. Since no published books, manuscripts, or illustrated
manuals exist
to document the forms practiced by his grandfather, it is somewhat difficult to
assess these
arguments. However, whatever the reasons are that led Yang Cheng-Fu to
modify previous
forms, we thank him for his creative efforts, influential teaching, and for
creating an elegant,
challenging, relaxing, and energizing sequence that has become the preeminent
Taijiquan
form practiced all around the world.
"In the life time of Yang Lu-chan there was no
photography or video technology. So we can only
surmise and take from the recorded literature and hear-say and create an image
of what his form
and style was like. In Chen Wei Ming's questions and answers on Taijiquan, he
mentions that
Yang Lu-chan when performing 'snake creeps down' was reputed to be able to pick
up a coin
with his mouth, he was so low that it was like sitting on the floor. He was also
accredited with
being able to use elbow stroke to an opponent's knee. From these records we can
gather than
Yang Lu-chan's form was rather low. Also, Yang Ban Hou and Yang Shao Hou
when they practised
their style was closer to Chen style. One of the Yang family taught the Wu
family so we know the
Wu style developed from Yang style. How close the many styles are to Yang
Lu-chan is difficult
to ascertain with the material and information made available."
- Professor
Li Deyin
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